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Mixing your own goat feed

farmwoody
by farmwoody
Does anyone out there mix their own goat ration?
We mix our own for the pigs and I would like to for the goats as well. I can get wheat and barley from a local farmer, organic sugar beet is easy to find, but I'd like to hear what everyone else feeds.
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jinglejoys
#1
by jinglejoys
Be exceptionally carefull giving barley to goats-no more than 20%.Oats are the best. as Mrs Mostyn Owen would say "too much protien is bad."
One of her receipes was 1 part flaked maize 1 part rolled oats & 1 part s/b pulp but the most important tip I had was "Wherever possible improve the bulk before resorting to the corn bin"
farmwoody
#2
by farmwoody
Thanks Jingle, I've had goats on and off for about 15 years so I'm okay on the values and the fact that you should only supplement with hard feed, but over the last 3 years we've started to drop the premixed feed for all of our stock and having just got the pig ration right, its the goats turn.
Just interested to know how others feed.
Farmwoody
Joey
#3
by Joey
Be exceptionally carefull giving barley to goats-no more than 20%.Oats are the best. as Mrs Mostyn Owen would say "too much protien is bad."


You mean no more than 20% barley as the goats total intake (including forage)
not 20% of the supplementary feed.

The protein content of barley and oats is virtually the same. I think what she may be trying to say is here is "too much starch is bad"

The combination of maize oats/barley and sugar beet pulp would be an excellent supplementary energy source but would be very poor in protein. In fact good hay or fresh grass would have a higher proportion of protein than this mixture. The protein would need to come from something like maize gluten
or sunflower, rape or soya meal or peas or beans.
Rob R
#4
by Rob R
Be exceptionally carefull giving barley to goats-no more than 20%.Oats are the best. as Mrs Mostyn Owen would say "too much protien is bad."
One of her receipes was 1 part flaked maize 1 part rolled oats & 1 part s/b pulp but the most important tip I had was "Wherever possible improve the bulk before resorting to the corn bin"


What exactly is supposed to happen to goats fed more than 20% barley? I've been feeding barley to goats (they seem to get sick of too many oats), with no adverse effects for over ten years now.
www.GrassFedDexterBeef.co.uk
jinglejoys
#5
by jinglejoys
Ever read Mackenzie?And we are talking the original version here?I suppose it depends how hard you want to push the goat but we're not talking cows the goat is a differant animal.
It depends how much concentrate you are feeding,as said you up the bulk quality first before resorting to the concentrates.
jinglejoys
#6
by jinglejoys
P.S. Rob in answer to the first bit of your question,we used to call it "Protein poisoning" but I don't know what it would be called nowadays.
Joey
#7
by Joey
[quotei:gr14c97a80a6a8d3]Be exceptionally carefull giving barley to goats-no more than 20%.Oats are the best. as Mrs Mostyn Owen would say "too much protien is bad."
One of her receipes was 1 part flaked maize 1 part rolled oats & 1 part s/b pulp but the most important tip I had was "Wherever possible improve the bulk before resorting to the corn bin"


What exactly is supposed to happen to goats fed more than 20% barley? I've been feeding barley to goats (they seem to get sick of too many oats), with no adverse effects for over ten years now.[/quotei:gr14c97a80a6a8d3]

Rob,
There is no reason why the goats supplementary feed given alongside forage
can't be 100% barley. I think what they are saying is that too much starchy supplementary feed can lead to Acidosis in any ruminant animal. In an acute case where an animal has say, broken into the feed store and gorged itself on
pig or poultry feed, or straight cereals , this can be fatal. Much more common (particularly dairy cows on a high level of concentrates) is sub clinical acidosis which can cause feet problems and other health problem. Cereal starches ferment at different speed in the rumen so some cereals are more dangerous than others. wheat is the fizziest,followed by barley .Maize is the slowest. I'm not sure about oats but I imagine it may be somewhere between barley and Maize.
However if you cook a cereal, the starch changes and becomes fast fermenting
(fizzy). So flaked maize is more dangerous than wheat. Rolled cereals are not cooked but flakeing involves a cooking process.
Nanny
#8
by Nanny
mine quite like barley and have had no problems with the cold rolled stuff though too much makes them VERY fat so now it's a handful of coarse goat mix, a handful of barley , ad lib hay and any other green stuff i can find for them be it willow boughs or any greens from the garden...............mine are particularly fond of marigolds and courgettes but are all bored to tears with the windfall apples.

i have one anglo-nubian called violet whom i hope to get into kid next year
1 pygmy named tilly
1 castrated pygmy billy called just william that i would love to teach to be a pack animal but can't.
Rob R
#9
by Rob R
Thanks Joey. I'm aware of all the associated potential problems with feeding cereals to ruminants, but I'd never heard (nor experienced) problems with feeding barley to goats, in particular, once sensible feeding precautions are adhered to.
www.GrassFedDexterBeef.co.uk
#10
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I have 1 anglo nubian and when i got her she was very thin so i fed her a handful of goat mix let her out every day where she ate grass and the hedgerows but loved to sit and eat the horse haylage every day. Now she is really fat and has only hay and no hard feed but doesnt seem to loose any weight. I now have a problem with her being lame although she was lame when i got her i think she has laminitis, i think the previous owners fed her bute, but i love her and dont want to ge rid of her so please let me know how to cure her. She is 6 has kidded fine before and has her feet done regulary and doesnt have foot rot because i thought it might be that to start with. Any suggestions would be more than welcome.
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